What ranks used standard bearer sleeve patch? Could a Gefolgschaftsführer use one?
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Yes, that is possible. Here's some more info:
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See also post 5 in that thread regarding minimum ranks including females.
Yes, that is possible. Here's some more info:
HJ Bann standard bearer Qualifications ??? | Specialist patches and insignia
Does anyone know what it would of taken to be nominated to became the Bann flag bearer of a HJ Bann . Would the youth have to obtain a certain rank ? Would it be given to the youth who had collected the most donations within the year ? Or the best Athelete ? I just want to know what it...
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See also post 5 in that thread regarding minimum ranks including females.
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I should have asked this before answering but are you asking about the Bann / Jungbann standard bearers or the Gefolgschaft / Fähnlein standard bearers? There is a difference in the permissible ranks.
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Okay, for that level there appears to have been some confusion at the time. A 1938 Gebietsbehl from Gebiet Mittelelbe picks up on this and standardises the requirements for the Gefolgschaft and Fähnlein standard bearers as follows:
Gefolgschaft standard bearer:
Minimum rank: Kameradschaftsführer
Minimum height: 1.70m
Minimum age: 17
Fähnlein standard bearer:
Minimum rank: Jungzugführer
Minimum height: 1.60m
Minimum age: 15
A later Gebietsbefehl issued by Gebiet Pommern in 1943 gives the minimum ranks as Scharführer and Jungzugführer respectively. Surprisingly, the RJF seems not to have published guidance on this centrally.
No maximum rank is given in the 1938 source but for a flag at this level I would not think that the Gefolgschaftsführer / Fähnleinführer himself would have carried the flag.
Gefolgschaft standard bearer:
Minimum rank: Kameradschaftsführer
Minimum height: 1.70m
Minimum age: 17
Fähnlein standard bearer:
Minimum rank: Jungzugführer
Minimum height: 1.60m
Minimum age: 15
A later Gebietsbefehl issued by Gebiet Pommern in 1943 gives the minimum ranks as Scharführer and Jungzugführer respectively. Surprisingly, the RJF seems not to have published guidance on this centrally.
No maximum rank is given in the 1938 source but for a flag at this level I would not think that the Gefolgschaftsführer / Fähnleinführer himself would have carried the flag.