You will note on the
Axis forum thread, where these supposed 30 odd "identified" names (sources listed are: from
notes and photos) are published by poster Coburg22, there is not a single "Awarded" number mentioned. The caption of "
Approx. 250 awarded" is based on now Debunked facts and figures. In Post 14, Warlord claimed:
As to a list, that is something I am working on now. Got about 30.
I wonder if this is his own research, or if he has just copied what user Coburg22 posted at Axis ? If it was his own research, maybe there would be a few new names to add to that list at Axis?
Warlord, can you add anything, confirm, deny?
If this list at Axis is correct so far, then we have a mix of SS-Brigadeführer, Gauleiter, Reichsleiter and Reichsminister. Another aspect to consider, when judging the Importance of this award, with regards a zinc version, in-wear version, muli-colors and multi-designs.... from a multitude of makers.
Dion,
Sometimes fisty cuffs are necessary. The reference to your Fantasy badge was made by me and not by Garry, in order to prove the same point i did with Mr Ailsbys
book. After all, he has Authenticated a stupid GPB that would not pass through any forum or any basic collection as Original, then goes on to lecture us about the Multitude of HJ Oak leaf versions based on nothing but his opinion and what he owns, which is in direct conflict with well researched and documented History, published years before by some of the most Knowledgeable Historians in the Militaria business. ( Published in the interest of History and not future Financial gain, remember now, Mr Ailsby will be looking to part with all of his self-documented Originals at some point) So for this reason, i took the simplest of Known fantasy badges off your site, which you had authenticated as Genuine, in order to back up any later posts i made with reference to you believing that your Gold washed Silver stamped badge could stand a chance. Thats all. In short, it was a point of reference to state that: If this person authenticated
this fantasy item, then anything else he claims, or states concerning much higher awards, should be taken with pinch of salt. You are of course free to list whatever you like, at whatever prices, using whatever you like as Back up or proof, be it "
your area" or not. So it was not a stab at you, as such, but rather back up for me, as i am not usually in the habit of posting one liners or posts that dont contain at least some substantial info, or a reference of sorts.
Yes Fakes slip through, but for my part, i don't "tell" people anymore that they are selling rubbish, that usually turns out counter productive and they take offense, or think that the person mailing them is "watching" them, or is a Know-it-all. Even if they publicly state otherwise. I speak from experience here, and have had many OK-ish internet relationships turn sour because of exactly this.