Reichssieger mini stickpin 1941

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i have Reichssieger mini stic pin,what is value on this one??

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Is a normal HJ Siegernadel and not a Reichssieger....

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Is there any evidence that this badge existed as a stickpin and that it came with a red diamond? I only know the standard Reichssportwettkampf version in grey/silver with reverse pin like the one in the middle here:

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There was a "Goldene Siegernadel" for the Jugendmeister which was replaced by a different badge in 1942 but that looked different to the one Jakob posted. Here's the 1940 gold Jugendmeister pin of that type:

1941 championship pin

Also see post 4 at the same link.
 

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I think, maybe u are right Jo.but why do u say so can u explaine to me pls-just for my learn.
I have found another for sale from one collector i try to trust.Only one thing is strange i have see just 3pc and all datet to 1941.
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I think, maybe u are right Jo.but why do u say so can u explaine to me pls-just for my learn.
I have found another for sale from one collector i try to trust.Only one thing is strange i have see just 3pc and all datet to 1941.
Hi Jacob
Not quite sure what else to say really?
It is a horribly cast item (not struck) with a flat pin (for this period and kind of stickpin the pin would be knurled - check the multitude of other TR pins around the same period)
The horrible reverse is a dead give away. There is, unfortunately no "maybe" about these, they are known fakes, nothing like the originals.
It is, to be frank, a worthless horrible piece of junk.
 
Is even better...

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