RJF Wachgefolgschaft Baldur von Schirach

Hi,

Yes, the RJF Mitteilungsblätter and Verordnungsblätter are a part of it plus a lot of other stuff that I got from archives over the years. Finding it is actually almost as enjoyable as using it to answer questions.

The building used by the RJF is called SOHO Haus Berlin (Torstraße 1, 10119 Berlin) these days.
 
Hi,

Yes, the RJF Mitteilungsblätter and Verordnungsblätter are a part of it plus a lot of other stuff that I got from archives over the years. Finding it is actually almost as enjoyable as using it to answer questions.

The building used by the RJF is called SOHO Haus Berlin (Torstraße 1, 10119 Berlin) these days.
I agree, having success in archival research is almost as enjoyable as the fruits of your labor. But then you reach a point realizing what will you do with all the files and paperwork and books. I have several hundred microfilm rolls from US Nat'l Archives purchased years ago when the price was quite low.

Just curious if you ever saw any notices in HJ publications of discount offers to buy pistols from German firms. I have found such notices in party publications and SA Verordnungsblatter (VBs). But none in SS VBs. Never seen any for other formations like NSKK or NSFK.
 
I've just gone through the RJF stuff looking for anything regarding offers to buy pistols but I didn't find anything specific. I have full coverage for 1933-39 but after that it's sporadic although I do have all of the index pages for 1940-44 so if there is anything in there about the purchase of pistols it may be hidden inside an order regarding pre-military training camps. Another source might possibly be RJF Reichsbefehle but unfortunately I don't have any of those unless they are quoted from or reproduced in a RJF Verordnungsblatt/Verordnungsblatt.

Yes, I've obtained a couple of things from the National Archive. Very useful. Back in 2009 they completed my order within two months but I ordered something in May of this year and haven't received it yet. They don't answer emails and it seems that you can't cancel an order once placed so all I can do is wait I suppose. True what you say about the stuff that accumulates on hard drives and bookshelves though :)
 
Yes, in the old days the NARA around was very quick. I got to know one of the ladies there and she provided excellent service on my orders. Now I understand from a researcher that Covid protocols are still in place at union request. Few employees there to service and film room access is limited.
 
Okay, here's what I have on the Wachgefolgschaft in my documentation:

I don't see anything in the RJF orders (RJF Verordnungsblatt/Amtliches Nachrichtenblatt) between 1933 and 1937 that directly mentions either the RJF-Wachgefolgschaft or the Wachgefolgschaft "Baldur von Schirach". I first see the Wachgefolgschaft mentioned in clothing regulations from 1938 (Amtliches Nachrichtenblatt 7/38 dated 30.9.1938 on page 4 where mention is made of the trousers and boots that they wore and of newly-introduced headwear and the wearing of the HJ greatcoat. They wore special shoulderstraps for four ranks peculiar to the Wachfolgschaft (Organisationsbuch NSDAP 1943) although I don't know exactly when they were introduced.

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As far as the selection procedure for the Wachgefolgschaft is concerned I have a number of Gebiet orders from 1938 and 1939 showing the criteria as they were at that time. I don't see anything before that so perhaps 1938 marked some kind of change in the membership of and selection process for the Wachgefolgschaft.

Selection

Reichsbefehl III/38 dated 25.11.1938:

"The selection process will take place between 25.1.1939 and 10.2.1939. Successful applicants will join the Wachgefolgschaft on 1.3.1939. Applicants must fulfill the following requirements:

HJ Member
Testimonial from Bann/Jungbann
Police clearance certificate
Medical certificate clearing the applicant for very strenuous activities (guard duties, field exercises, sport)
Permission from parents
CV with two pass photos
Height minimum: 1.75m
Age: 18-19
Duration: 12 months minimum. This can be longer for the best performing members and may lead to a place with the SS, RAD-Wehrpflicht or full-time, paid position within the HJ.

Applicants are to apply through their Bannführer or Gebiet personnel office". Gebiet Kurmark added "good racial appearance" to the requirements.


The above is repeated, more or less, in orders from three different HJ-Gebiete and although it isn't mentioned specifically in any of them, an order from Gebiet Westfalen dated 30.5.1940 seems to show that the Wachgefolgschaft was made up of SRD members. In that order, Befehlsstelle "Überwachung" within the RJF requested personnel for temporary secondment to the Wachgefolgschaft for the period 1.8.1940 - 31.8.1940. Gebiet Westfalen filled its contingent of three with SRD leaders so I would think that the rank and file of the Wachgefolgschaft at this time, perhaps earlier too, was made up of SRD members only. The same cannot be said of the leader of the Wachgefolgschaft though as the following example shows.

Stammführer Hartmann.

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This chap became the commander of the Wachgefolgschaft in October 1938 and his CV does not show any involvement with the SRD. He joined the HJ in 1930 and eventually commanded both Stamm II and VI of Bann 67 having played an important role in the early formation and growth of HJ units in that area. He was also, as can be seen from the photo, the Bann standard bearer.

I'll keep looking through my stuff for more on this subject and if anyone else would like to add to the thread please jump in (y)
Hello, I own a book written by one of these Wachgefolgschaft men published prior to 1945. I am traveling overseas so cannot access it until mid- September (2025. ) I will then come back to this forum and add details. However, I mentioned the book to Klaus v.S; Baldur's oldest son , a few years ago and he remembered the man as a good Wachmann and that his father had provided him with a scholarship afterwards. This man was one of those who had duty at times guarding the country home "Aspenstein" of the von Schirachs at Walchensee in Southern Bavaria. The home was confiscated after the war and is presently a SPD conference facility. It is not far from the former Baldur von Schirach Jugendherberge, which is still a very nice Youth Hostel today.
 
Hello, I own a book written by one of these Wachgefolgschaft men published prior to 1945. I am traveling overseas so cannot access it until mid- September (2025. ) I will then come back to this forum and add details. However, I mentioned the book to Klaus v.S; Baldur's oldest son , a few years ago and he remembered the man as a good Wachmann and that his father had provided him with a scholarship afterwards. This man was one of those who had duty at times guarding the country home "Aspenstein" of the von Schirachs at Walchensee in Southern Bavaria. The home was confiscated after the war and is presently a SPD conference facility. It is not far from the former Baldur von Schirach Jugendherberge, which is still a very nice Youth Hostel today.
I'm looking forward to this information from the book. Thanks in advance for your effort.
 
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