,for all we know the blades were sold in novelty souvenir shops and were told to stop by authorities some sold the rest destroyed.
Then how do you explain that every example known is mint, or near mint? if they were actually sold, then there would be shop window display showing them, a period catalog mention, a newspaper mention, and if they were confistaced and destroyed, then they would have been mentioned the same as other, confiscated and destroyed Olympic items were (as i mentioned above and quoted from period sources)
Makers were warned more than half a year ahead of the olympics that they would need a special permit to use the ringed-logo.
Small fake olympic stickpins? yes, i can believe that,they are even mentioned too, but boxes of daggers, all mint, all etched in the weirdest way?
Operaman, i dont need to add anything else to this thread, i know where they first came from, the USA, i know who first made them, and i have his owns words in writing to prove it. The only reason i am not just posting you pictures of his emails, is because there is:
1.No need, as the facts alone tell us they are bogus, the german grammar printed on the packets tell us that they were not made in 1936 in Germany, along with the other points mentiponed on this thread.
2.I have been saving his eMails to use when i can squash many flies with one blow and not waste them on this silly dagger which most accept is bogus anyway. (read the Forum discussions).
If you like them, then buy one, try Mr Haas, he will let you have one for €500.- instead of the $2500.- that Oakleaf will make you pay. (you save $2000.-)
But dont make the mistake of thinking that they are a "could be" item, because they are, with 101% certainty, a very late post war Fantasy item, along with the
1935 Reichsparteitag Knife.
I would sugguest that you wait until one hits ioffer, or icollector, i have seen them sell there for 200 and less.
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Operaman, on LST, sure and so have i, for a few thousand dollars as well, this thread is no about questioning LST and their wares, its simply about this Dagger. I would sugguest to everyone who decides to believe any story by any Name/Big Boy, to first mail them, and ask them where they got their description from, and what facts they back up their assumption of the origins of these daggers with. A Simple "Every big boy also says they are real" is nowhere near good enough, especially when the facts tell us the opposite. Its also not good enough to use what you just said about " things were made, maybe these too" as a loop hole, as the facts in this case tell us a different story as well. This is also not about "Either produce rock solid proof or its fake". Some unique items dont have any proof as such, but most of the time, similarities and facts will help to broaden and assist our assumtions when we need to make them. In this case, we are not talking about a unique item, we are talking about boxes upon boxes of Mint daggers that look nothing like period daggers (the etching with enamel painting) all accompanied by their also mint packets, that were kept aside from the dagger as they are nice and flat, and minty too. Not to mention the fact that they are available mostly solely through people who are less than trustworthy, (not LST) and that these people constantly advertise that they have just got some more in, all the time ! So take period evidence, known facts, and the modern side of business into consideration, as well as a little hands on expirience, and you can only reach the conclusion that they "cant be". Its only a cheap dagger and not the Moon Landing theory. (
New evidence surfaced recently that proves that it actually happened)
And as far as the Small white pocket knife NOT being original? Well all i will say is look at it, if you have enough expirience and a feeling for the items, it will speak to you, and say.."I am an honest piece, that you wont find on every web site, i am real and rare"
seems to be so true and of course those who bought them there is no turning back for them either.
