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Ah, they were playing colonial masters. Politically incorrect.
 
BlackWatch1 said:
I recently picked up this photograph and the buckle looks to my eyes to have a Jolly Rodger style design. What do you guys think? The music instrument is a so-called „Schalmei“. Circa 1932 I believe. Thanks
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Wow , what a picture ! You are right : The instrument in his hands is a "Schalmei" . First used by the Communists the SA and HJ soon overtook them . It can be also that Communists who left the "Rote Front" to join the SA or HJ ( this happened very often ) brought these instruments to the National Socialists. There are not many photos displaying the Schalmei.
 
Banat Hitler-Jugend from a damage glass negative. Not the best quality sorry.

The Banat was a political entity established in 1941 after the occupation and partition of Yugoslavia by the Axis Powers in the historical Banat region. It was formally under the control of the German puppet Government of National Salvation in Belgrade, which theoretically had limited jurisdiction over all of the Territory of the Military Commander in Serbia, but all power within the Banat was in the hands of the local minority of ethnic Germans (Volksdeutsche).

At the end of the war, in retribution, Communist partisan bands engaged in massacres of ethnic Germans, primarily in the area of present-day Vojvodina. Villages were wiped out, with the inhabitants either killed or forced into concentration camps, where many died of hunger or disease.

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wilhelm saris said:
Great photo and here one can see the best possible way what buckle they did wear.
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Thank you Wilhelm. In the future I need to purchase a better scanner for negatives. I believe I can do better than the image posted here. Unfortunately it was broken in half. I'm just happy to be able to post this now even if it is not the quality I wish it could be.
 
BlackWatch1 said:
Banat Hitler-Jugend from a damage glass negative. Not the best quality sorry.

The Banat was a political entity established in 1941 after the occupation and partition of Yugoslavia by the Axis Powers in the historical Banat region. It was formally under the control of the German puppet Government of National Salvation in Belgrade, which theoretically had limited jurisdiction over all of the Territory of the Military Commander in Serbia, but all power within the Banat was in the hands of the local minority of ethnic Germans (Volksdeutsche).

At the end of the war, in retribution, Communist partisan bands engaged in massacres of ethnic Germans, primarily in the area of present-day Vojvodina. Villages were wiped out, with the inhabitants either killed or forced into concentration camps, where many died of hunger or disease.
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Hi BlackWatch1,
Beautiful photo of an unseen by me belt buckle, do we know if there was a DJ bann also, and did they wear that type of buckle ?
Best regards..Ewan
 
Thank you. I'm working on a better version of this image and will post soon. Mr. Saris will hopefully have an answer for you with regards to Banat DJ.
 
A better copy perhaps? Does anyone know the badge he is wearing on his breast pocket? :)

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ewan0939 said:
Hi BlackWatch1,
Beautiful photo of an unseen by me belt buckle, do we know if there was a DJ bann also, and did they wear that type of buckle ?
Best regards..Ewan
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Found this on here:

Deutsche Jugend in Banat and Serbia - Deutscher Mädelbund

This was originally posted by member 'hba45' on the first incarnation of HJ-Research. A fantastic set of 'Deutsche Jugend' DMB (Deutscher Mädelbund) documents for a volksdeutsche* girl who lived in Bela Crkva (German: Weisskirchen) in Serbia. I first purchased these documents thinking they...
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Could the badge on the boys breast pocket be a variation of the symbol on this Ausweis?

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Note the variety of footwear and the different jackets. None of the girls wears a district triangle and the flag looks like it was homemade. Though I grew up in Berlin I am not able to say exactly what place this picture was taken.
 
Does the clothing look familiar? BDM? Year? Thanks :canada1

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All girls are wearing the same clothes but on first sight it does not look like a standard BDM clothing. But it looks like early "Landjahr" or "Landdienst". Of course this is a group of the BDM and one of the girls has the typical climbing jacket under her arm. All girls seem to belong to the age group 16-18 that would speak for "Landdienst" . Usually boys had to join the "Reichsarbeitsdienst" when turning 17 years while girls served in the Frauenarbitsdiest which later was renamed to "Reichsarbeitsdienst für die weibliche Jugend ". I suspect it must be a photo from the early days of National Socialism, because all the girls are wearing the beret, which is rarely found in photos after 1934.

In the Landjahr and in the female Reichsarbeitsdienst girls did not always wear the ordinary BDM style uniform .Usually they wore a clothing that was better suited to typical agricultural work. Until now I did not find the use of the beret on pictures later than 1934. Of course there are always exceptions.

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Chlodwig said:
All girls are wearing the same clothes but on first sight it does not look like a standard BDM clothing. But it looks like early "Landjahr" or "Landdienst". Of course this is a group of the BDM and one of the girls has the typical climbing jacket under her arm. All girls seem to belong to the age group 16-18 that would speak for "Landdienst" . Usually boys had to join the "Reichsarbeitsdienst" when turning 17 years while girls served in the Frauenarbitsdiest which later was renamed to "Reichsarbeitsdienst für die weibliche Jugend ". I suspect it must be a photo from the early days of National Socialism, because all the girls are wearing the beret, which is rarely found in photos after 1934.

In the Landjahr and in the female Reichsarbeitsdienst girls did not always wear the ordinary BDM style uniform .Usually they wore a clothing that was better suited to typical agricultural work. Until now I did not find the use of the beret on pictures later than 1934. Of course there are always exceptions.

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Hello. Fellow member Wilhelm Saris informed me these were former members of the Bund Königin Luise who joined the Bund Deutscher Mädel after the Luisenbund was dissolved in 1934.
 
Great Info from Wilhelm . All I know is that "Koenigin Luise Bund" was the female organisation to the "Stahlhelm Bund" . The Koenigin Luise Federation was very national and and this Federation was very close to the National Socialists. Hitler was generally perceived as the coming man who would free the Germans from the clutches of the Treaty of Versailles. The image of women in this association corresponded almost entirely to that of the later BDM. Good mothers, comrades to their husbands, abstinent from alcohol and nicotine. The Koenigin Luise Bund had its badge that can be found sometimes even on porcelain.

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