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KleinerHäwelmann said:
Why am I writing all this here...

Because it touched me personally, that's the only reason.

I remember my father Bob, telling about Vietnam.
The old gentleman, a typical American, everything was fine, we fought the north, the damn communists in Hanoi.

Visitor to the Vietnam Memorial every year, putting down flowers for his fallen comrades.

More than 3 million Vietnamese killed, were never worth a single word to my American father.

It is, like it is, we all have to accept it.

Micha

* Although I have little to do with this father today, I am ashamed of this father.
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I am enjoying reading what you are writing. I myself have German heritage ( and also Irish, Scotish, English, Welsh, Danish, French, Italian, Finish, Greek, Russian/Ukrainian. I'm a mixed bag lol) like many other Canadians and know the common German is no different than the common Canadian. We are all at the mercy of world politics and crazy politicians. This will never change unfortunately, just look at Ukraine and Russia. Most of the photos I collect show average people living in an extraordinary and unstable world and doing their best to make sense of it and survive.
 
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BlackWatch1 said:
Well this one is new to me my friends. A member of the HJ acting as a Kinderschar leader hence the Wolfsangel on his cap? Anyone recognize the badge on his chest? Unfortunately the photo isn't very sharp.

Comments are most welcome! :cool:

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Hello Blackwatch , I very much love your extremely interesting photos - especially the HJ - Kinderschar - Leader . I found this little badge among my collection and thought you might like it. The Kinderschar is a very interesting part of history - often a little neglected.

You often have potos that make the forum here very very interesting . How could you get such rare and perfec tphotos ? It must have taken a long time to collect them . Go on Blackwatch - you are a win for us all !!!!!
 
wilhelm saris said:
the wolfhook was the symbol of the Schülerbund.
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Thanks a lot Wilhelm . Was the little wolfhook badge from my pictures sometimes used by other groups and organisations during the Third Reich? One can find it sometimes on pics that not absolutely belong to the Schülerbund. I know the wolfhook were used very often during the Third Reich but I mean especially the little wolfhook I attached above.
 
Hi BlackWatch1,

thank you for the photo of the girl, for sure, she was to old for the "Deutsche Kinderschar", she was visibly in her "teen" years.

The runic symbol of the "Wolfsangel" was and is very common in my north german homeland, on hundreds of ancient farmhouses
you will find this symbol.

Link: "Die Sigrune oder Wolfsangel" Heraldische Figuren, Symbole und Runen, die in der Zeit des Nationalsozialismus Verwendung fanden

By the way, in the north german small town Schortens, there was once the so-called "Wolfsgalgen" ("Wolf Gallows")
You may find this internet article interesting: Der Wolfsgalgen

It's a very interesting topic, and it only has a late connection to the abuses of the Nazis.
Very few of these Nazis had any idea what these ignoramuses were actually talking about.
But something like that still happens today, a lot of blah-blah, and there's nothing behind it, just ignorance. ;)

With this in mind, a friendly greeting to Canada, and keep your photos comming..! (y)

Micha
P.S. We had a short "Blackout" here in the house a minute ago, but my entry is still visible... :)
(Kitchen work downstairs on the first floor, they probably caused the "Blackout")
 
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Chlodwig said:
Hello Blackwatch , I very much love your extremely interesting photos - especially the HJ - Kinderschar - Leader . I found this little badge among my collection and thought you might like it. The Kinderschar is a very interesting part of history - often a little neglected.

You often have potos that make the forum here very very interesting . How could you get such rare and perfec tphotos ? It must have taken a long time to collect them . Go on Blackwatch - you are a win for us all !!!!!
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I'm glad you enjoy the few photographs I've contributed here. I clean up the photos I collect using digital software and sometimes this can take several hours. I have many more photos in my Flickr account from the same era but not directly HJ related and I also have over 1300 unedited photos on my computer waiting to be worked on. An impossible task! ;)
 
Hi Blackwatch1,

nothing is impossible, I have been collecting photos since the 1970s, tens of thousands of pictures, only from 1933 to 1945.
My grandfather left more than 1200 photos from his "Arbeitsdienst" years, taken with a Leica camera.

Thousands of photos come from finds or donations, including at least 600 photos of the youth organizations.
DJ, HJ, RADwJ, etc.
I know how much work and time it takes just to view all of this, let alone scan it and edit it.
I don't even want to write about the hundreds of photos from my own family, a life's work...

Altogether there are definitely more than 25,000 photos, I never counted the photos, I don't even want to start with the undeveloped negatives...

Good luck for your collections! (y)

Micha
 
Back in the 1990's I still thought it was important to show all these photos on the internet.

I have published hundreds of previously unknown photos on internet forums.
In Germany, in the USA, in Sweden, in Australia, etc.

The photos were clicked on and seen tens of thousands of times, with almost nothing coming out of it.
On the contrary, I was insulted, slandered, described as an old Nazi, as a trespasser, as a profit-oriented person who only wanted to sell his finds.

After 2013, about 10 years ago, I stopped posting historical photos on the internet.
I was tired of being "shot" for these pictures, of being held personally responsible for the content of these photos.
Many of the photos in my collection are ugly, disturbing, some have become world famous...

Now I don't care about any of that, I was more involved in earlier years, those years are over.

Micha

P.S. Every previously unknown photo is worth being published, it is not uncommon for descendants to recognize a member of their own family who has met his end wherever he was far away from home...
There were photos like this, taken in Stalingrad, on which descendants recognized a brother, an uncle, or a father.
 
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I keep coming back to a series of photos taken by a German naval artillery soldier on his way to Crimea.
I'll show you just one photo from a series of 80 photos that the common soldier took on his way to war.

By coincidence, his widow left his photos in 2008, the photos were to be thrown away, they were already in the trash, I was able to save the photos, purely by chance.

The man was simple, young Mr. Bölts had a camera in his luggage, he took photos while traveling by train in the direction of Crimea, Sevastopol...
At a stop in Romania, children asked for cigarettes.
This is one of the three photos that the man took at the time.
There were a total of 3 photos of the children, which Mr. Bölts wrote on the back with a pencil with "Zigeunerkinder".

The small series of these three photos is frightening, none of the three boys will have survived the war.
I'll post the other two photos here later...

These photos that were supposed to be thrown away in the 1980s, these images moved me to collect old photos.
Enlarged much later on a flatbed scanner, these images became a little treasure.

Also the photo was abused for a documentary and a movie on the designation "Wolfskinder", which had nothing with the
original set of the three photos, what a shame.

The pictures are horrible, the little boy in the middle with the cigarette, I dream this shit over and over again...
The three pictures follow me into my dreams...

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Collecting photos is special, many of the photos from before 1900 are difficult to identify.
Huge family photos, taken in the garden, the men look like pirates with their beards, the ladies are nice and neat, a single Rätzel...?

There were no children in these photos, only ancient people who had gathered there.
All men, of course, with their medals, a sabre, a sword, sit still for 3 minutes, and then go...

My grandfather was more subtle, just a photo of the old gentleman in uniform, more typical were photos like this from his homeland.

Such veteran photos were not his thing, as a photographer the good man had other things on his mind.

My grandfather's father was a pacifist, a veteran of the First World War, he collected banned books, he was a photographer, he hated the National Socialists.
He must have been a good man, unfortunately he died ten years before I was born.
I would have liked to get to know the old gentleman, generations are always passed on to the generation after that, but I was 10 years too late, what a pity...

Today my great-grandfather is closer to me than my grandfather, I would have loved to have met the man, he died in 1947.

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I can imagine how much work has to be done until you have a clear and fine photo. But I am sure you will discover many new things on them that can help us . Great work BlackWatch1 ... great historical work !:thumbup:
 
BlackWatch1 said:
Thank-you everyone for the positive feedback!

Circa 1920's? The boy on the right is wearing an early static hakenkreuz buckle.

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It is extremely interesting to wath elder pictures from the beginning of the Hitleryouth . Privately purchased "supporter buckles" and a nice tinnie on the tie. And I am really surprised about the unusal long hair worn by the smaller boy - maybe a regular children´s style? Thanks Balckwatch - you give us so much important information.
 
BlackWatch1 said:
Circa 1932? Both boys are wearing HJ armbands.

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I like this photo very much. It probably shows rural population, because before 1933 for example in Berlin it was dangerous to wear the SA or HJ uniform (Herbert Norkus), while the peasants in the countryside were all close to the NS movement - the Nazis felt very close to the peasantry. The photo shows two boys in improvised HJ uniforms - mostly the families simply didn't have the money for a "real" HJ uniform
 
A boy posing for his First School Year photograph in 1933.

I suppose he was in the DJ and is wearing a makeshift uniform.

Like most of my original photographs this was in poor condition and I did what I could to clean it up :)

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Great photo, with lots of detail. A very small HJ wearing an armband, no arm triangle or knife or any badges.
He also seems to be wearing a tie ? rather than the normal scarf and woggle, fab photo
 
Hi BlackWatch1,

A great photo thanks for posting it.Yes, nice DJ buckle, but I did laugh when I seen the guy furthest right has used a cross strap as a belt
great idea.

Best regards...Ewan
 
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