How many makers of the Deutsches Jungvolk membership badge were there?

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First Version Deutsches Jungvolk Membership Badge DJV
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Second Version Deutsches Jungvolk Membership badge DJ

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Last updated: 26th of June 2023​
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First Pattern DJ Badges with DJV on the obverse​
Pre-RZM produced, these badges will never be encoutered with any form of RZM logo or makers code on the reverse. They were produced with the extra "V" until circa 1932|early 1933 (link)​
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Makers known so far:​
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  1. Assmann und Söhne (Link)
  2. Steinhauer und Lück (Link)
  3. Unmarked
  4. GES.GESCH. (Link)(Link)(Link)
Second Pattern DJ Badges with only DJ on the obverse​
Pre-RZM Makers known so far:​
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  1. Rudolf Schanes (Wien, Austria) (Link)
  2. G&B (Link)(Link)(Link)(Link)
  3. Ferdinand Hoffstätter (Link)
  4. Lehmann und Wunderberg (Link)
  5. Gösel (Austria) (Link)
  6. Meybauer (Link)
  7. Beco - Boerger und Co (Link)
  8. Karl Hensler (Link)
  9. WIFRO (Link)
  10. Unknown makers mark (Link)
  11. GES.GESCH.
  12. Unmarked (Link)(Link)
  13. Unknown maker's mark: R.D.N.D.J (Link)
  14. Unknown maker's mark (Link)
  15. "GB" Gustav Brehmer (Link)
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Post-RZM produced, and can be found with the RZM logo and a transitional makers code.​
Makers known so far:​
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  1. Steinhauer & Lück (Link)
  2. RZM 29 - Otto Riedel (Link)
  3. RZM 24 -Overhoff & Cie (Link)
  4. RZM 33 - Unknown maker to date (Link)
  5. RZM 37 Link
  6. RZM 52 (Link)
  7. RZM 75 - Otto Schickle (Link)
  8. RZM 78 (Link)
  9. RZM plus Unknown makers mark (Link)
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Foreign Deutsche Jugend DJ​
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Deutsche Jugend in Romania​
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  1. Knaus, Zagreb (Link)
  2. Zeugmeisterei, Esseg (Link)
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Known reproductions so far:​
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  1. RZM M1/72 (link)(Link)(Link)(Link)(Link)
  2. RZM 72 painted (Link)
  3. RZM GES.GESCH. (Link)
  4. RZM GES.GESCH. different to above (Link)
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Questionable badges so far:​
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  1. GES.GESCH. with strange letter J (Link)
  2. DJV with roto-engraved RZM logo (Link)
  3. RZM 72 (Link)
  4. M1/120 (Link)
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Liliput versions​
Liliput, or smaller versions of this badge are known. To date we have observed smaller versions of both the DJV and the DJ badge.​
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  1. DJV - Steinhauer und Lück (Link)
  2. DJV - GES.GESCH. (Link)
  3. DJ - Beco - Boerger und Co (Link)
  4. DJ - GES.GESCH. only (Link)
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Period references to the DVJ and DJ badges​
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  1. The above image from an early 1933 catalog (showing old stock from before 1933) shows the Jungvolk Abzeichen (as an official badge) with DJV on the obverse, for 25 pfennig. (credit W.Saris)
  2. Mitteilungsblatt der Reichszeugmeisterei 9 June 1934 P.3 shows the Jungvolk Abzeichen with only DJ on the obverse (Link)
  3. Aufbau und abzeichen der NSDAP 1933 P.21 shows the Jungvolk Abzeichen with only DJ on the obverse (Link)
  4. Aufbau und abzeichen der NSDAP 1934 P.22 shows the Jungvolk Abzeichen with only DJ on the obverse (Link)
  5. Berliner Illustrirte Zeitung 13.8.1933 P.1164 shows the Jungvolk Abzeichen with only DJ on the obverse (Link)
 

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Schanes
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RZM 29
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RZM 52
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slighty different RZM GES.GESCH. fake
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Hi Jo

See you look for a better DVJ - here is mine - not perfect, but better than that in post 1 I think. :yo:

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Cheers Michael, but the images are too blurry. Don`t want to make myself more work by changing it now, only to change it again next week. User Jimmy72 has just bought a nice DJVbadge, and he said he`ll provide better images to use of his in a bit.

Here is a new one for the list, a Liliput Boerger und Co - Beco. Second image shows comparison to a normal size one.
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mkholst said:
Hi Jo

See you look for a better DVJ - here is mine - not perfect, but better than that in post 1 I think. :yo:

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Added to the list, a very nice badge. I wonder how long the badges with DJV were made? Probably not that long, because there seem to be many more normal DJ badges out there than DJV.....
 
RZM 72 - Fritz Zimmermann

Hi Jo

OK, but if you don't get a better DJV-one, I can take better pics - just ask.

I have enclosed pics of RZM 72 (just found it among other pics I have taken from the internet)

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OK, cheers, will let you know. I am not sure about the RZM 72. Look at the list, we have many fakes!!! It could be that there was such a genuine badge, but to be 100% sure, we would really need to have an example to look at properly, and be 100% sure, simply because of all the fakes. When I put the links in last night in post 1, I did note that some collectors were happy with them, but then many were not, on some posts I found, for example, Wim v.G commenting on some RZM 72 - terrible fake, and a few years later on the same badge he said it was a nice original? I put all the 72`s into the fake list, and one of them that was not 100% clear, into the "questionable badges" list.
We do have a good few makers who made them in 1934 with RZM and either a number or a maker’s logo, so it is possible that we could find a genuine marked RZM 72, but so far all of them are easy to spot fakes.
I can`t even say anything about the badge you posted? The front looks OK to me, but the back does not. And, I have been wrong myself many times before when I just commented on internet images, so will not do that again, ever! And to be fair, when we get a list together like this post (and the others) we need to be 100% sure because many collectors will use the list as a way of quickly authenticating.
"Oh look, on the HJ-Research forum it is listed as a genuine badge, so I`ll buy it!"
 
DJV Badge marked Ges Gesch

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DJV Badge marked Ges Gesch / Attachment plate marked Gesetzlich Geschützt

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DJ Badge marked Ges Gesch

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DJ Badge Transitional marked RZM 52 / Deschler & Sohn

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DJ Liliput-version

Hi Jo

I have just seen that pics of the DJ Liliput-version with Ges. Gesch. is missing, so here it is:


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Pic 3 is only used to compare the size.

Michael :denmark
 

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