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Hello everyone.
I recently found these items. The buckle made of brass plate with the eagle made of nickel-plated brass. It is 45 mm buckle.
One guy in this thread dated this type of a buckle (19015 wich is similar but not the same) by 1926
They almost certainly belonged to the same person. As far as I know, there is about a four-year gap between the introduction of the two badges. Based on that, I estimated the owner's birth year to be around 1915–1916. I'm trying to identify the owner because I have a rough idea of who might have lived at this location.
Initially, I assumed these items represented different periods of the owner's life (HJ badges is one, rank stars, and an SA buckle another). However, I recently discovered that all of these items could actually have been worn together by a member of the Hitler Youth (HJ).
In this photo, both of these badges are visible (one on the cap and the other on the chest), and the rank stars can also be seen. In the photo with the documents, the buckles have the HJ diamond attached, but in the photo with the map, you can see the lower edge of the buckle worn by the person with one rank star, and there is no HJ diamond on it.
The photographs are dated to approximately 1933–1936.
My questions are:
Did these items belong to the SA or the Hitler Youth (HJ), or could they all have been worn together by an HJ member at the same time?
Is it possible to date them more precisely based on the maker's marks on the badges and the absence of markings on the buckle?
Thanks in advance for any insights!
I recently found these items. The buckle made of brass plate with the eagle made of nickel-plated brass. It is 45 mm buckle.
One guy in this thread dated this type of a buckle (19015 wich is similar but not the same) by 1926
They almost certainly belonged to the same person. As far as I know, there is about a four-year gap between the introduction of the two badges. Based on that, I estimated the owner's birth year to be around 1915–1916. I'm trying to identify the owner because I have a rough idea of who might have lived at this location.
Initially, I assumed these items represented different periods of the owner's life (HJ badges is one, rank stars, and an SA buckle another). However, I recently discovered that all of these items could actually have been worn together by a member of the Hitler Youth (HJ).
In this photo, both of these badges are visible (one on the cap and the other on the chest), and the rank stars can also be seen. In the photo with the documents, the buckles have the HJ diamond attached, but in the photo with the map, you can see the lower edge of the buckle worn by the person with one rank star, and there is no HJ diamond on it.
The photographs are dated to approximately 1933–1936.
My questions are:
Did these items belong to the SA or the Hitler Youth (HJ), or could they all have been worn together by an HJ member at the same time?
Is it possible to date them more precisely based on the maker's marks on the badges and the absence of markings on the buckle?
Thanks in advance for any insights!
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