Let's talk about the 1932 1 NS Reichsjugendtag Potsdam badges

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the silver version was the participants version. I noted official NSDAP, but this was not
quite correct. In the "Verordnungsblatt der Reichsleitung der NSDAP", issue 66
from the end of February 1934 with order 11/34 it was noted what was mentiond to be
an official order or decoration to be worn with the uniform. The shown insignia was not
included in this list. Neither it was included in the list as noted in issue 132 from mid-
November 1936 in the same "Verordnungsblatt". The golden HJ insignia was, but I can't
find anywhere if the Potsdam insignia was later phrased as a so-called traditions-badge.
If so, it was allowed to be worn with the uniform. Maybe one of our "order"-specialists
can help here!
 
Great thread. Lots of Hofstaetter badges around but pretty sure this is the first Aurich that I've seen. Makes me suspicious.

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Interesting document on Weitze's site which was produced to confirm that a boy had attended the Potsdam rally. It is accompanied by a bronze badge which, of course, may or not be that boy's. The interesting part is the date and the fact that these letters of confirmation were being produced at this time. It could be the case that this boy just didn't get a bronze badge on the day and needed written confirmation so that he could wear one that he obtained later but it could equally mean that he needed the letter in order to qualify to wear the silver version which, as we know, became the honour badge. If we assume the latter, that would give us a good insight into when that happened because as far as I know the date hasn't yet been nailed. See here for more on that. Interesting document in any case.


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Maybe there is another reason, that being, him having something official to take with him to the shop to buy one. As proof of one or another kind was required in order to buy these things.
 
Ewan sent me the stickpin-supposedly by Hoffstätter, shown in the magazione in post 10. Will include imcro images into a video at some point, it`s a horribly cast fake, just as we thought.
 
Jo Rivett said:
Maybe there is another reason, that being, him having something official to take with him to the shop to buy one. As proof of one or another kind was required in order to buy these things.
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Yep, that's what I was thinking Jo. Could be a pointer that the silver version achieved honour status towards the end of 1933 leading, like it did with the HJ Ehrenzeichen in 1934, to a rush of people getting official written confirmation before either going to an outlet to get the badge or perhaps for "Sammelbestellungen" through the manufacturer or the RJF.
 
Heran said:
Hi All,

.... Today I received the Internationales Militaria Magazin number 141,

Antonio
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For the avoidance of confusion, this was posted in 2011, and the magazine that Antonio is referring to, is from December 2009.
The way it`s posted, "..Today I recieved the magazine.." could lead people to believe that he was a subscriber, and had just recieved it, therefore in late 2011.
I have had to buy a copy of this magazine for my research, and just noted that it`s December 2009.
 
Garry said:
Looks like that edge was chomped out by a rabid beaver :)
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Yes. Very dissapointed with the full article, now I can read it. It`s pathetic really. Claims, but nothing to support them. In fact no research at all, and wrong info to boot. But not surprising seeing as it`s the IMM, I`ve only read a few copies of this mag, and each one has been the same. Dismal.
 
I'm going to start collating information froim the forum on various items so that I can create more wiki pages to centralise that informatiuon instead of having it spread out over loads of threads. I'm starting with the Potsdam badge (page is up but it's just a placeholder at the moment) and would appreciate it if those interested in these badges could read through this thread and see whether anything can be added. Perhaps some of you are aware of information that has turned up since this particular thread was last updated and it would be great to hear about that.
 
I hope this can contribute to the discussion. The HJ is wear the badge(silver?) in question and an SA style buckle so I assume circa 1933 and notice also the Hakenkreuz Swallow's Nests.

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crack said:
Great thread. Lots of Hofstaetter badges around but pretty sure this is the first Aurich that I've seen. Makes me suspicious.

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into the war Hoffstätter was noted to be the only manufacturer.
This was noted in the "Mitteilungsblatt der RZM"
 
Hey folks , it has been a long while since I posted on the wonderful HJ Research site but I thought these badges should be posted here for future users.
Jo had intentions of writing a small book or article on the 1932 Reichsjugendtag Potsdam badges but decided he wanted to pursue other interests and luckily I was able to secure some of the more interesting variations before they were scattered to the wind !
Anyway ...have a look !

1932 RJT Potsdam --Silver Grade Prototype -- Solid Messing with Silver wash .

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1932 RJT Potsdam -- Silver Grade Prototype -- Cupal


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1932 RJT Potsdam -- Bronze Grade -- Spectator Badge -- Solid Messing

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1932 RJT Potsdam -- Silver Grade -- Participant Badge -- Iron with Nickel Coating -- Magnetic

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1932 RJT Potsdam -- Silver Grade -- Replacement Badge -- Zinc

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1932 RJT Potsdam -- Silver Grade -- Replacement Badge -- Aluminum

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wilhelm saris said:
nice to see this stuff, thanks.
From what do you conclude the cupal version.
Can you show this, as it should be obvious it
is cupal?
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Yes , interesting badges .
Unfortunately , I have my microscope put away right now but here is a close up shot from my camera . As you can see the aluminum core is sandwiched between the thin copper sheeting on the badge . I focused the lens on the top sheet for this photo but both top and bottom sheets are clearly seen with the naked or microscope. Interesting to note is that the usual vertical shearing lines that we see on mass produced badges don't appear on the edge of this badge and the lines are somewhat irregular and angular . This indicates that this badge was not mass produced but rather a small prototype run where the badges were sheared by hand and in a minimal quantity .

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