Garry, i doubt whether you can "push" anyone of these people. Far too long has their "opinion" or COA been worth more to collectors than common sense. What they lack in general knowledge they make up for with arrogance. Ever try and trip Wittmann up at a show? he just stands there like 12 o`clock half struck and then turns his back on you. Anything that History offers up to destroy their latest fake will be countered with "I have 50 years of experience" we have all seen it on the Gottlieb SA birdshead dagger thread, a fake, supported by bogus photos made by its creator, and 1960s forger Jim Atwood but thats dont mean a thing, as Mr Gottlieb recently wrote in defense of his 65,950.- fake dagger:
you will see that I do have a Wittmann certificate on it, who physically inspected the dagger.
So if common sense wont prevail with these fat-cat high rollers, and if History is also not good enough to slap their arrogant faces, then how can you win? how can you even attempt a logical discussion with people who have been, and always will, continue to use the "opinions" of a certain few as "definite proof" that a piece of rubbish, is genuine? these stupid DJ knives fall into the same category.
These High rollers will NEVER dare to show their face on this forum, because here they dont have the support that they have on their Home-Forum, and will get asked logical questions that they will not be able to answer - hence making them look like Muppets in Public, with no defense from their regular few. You see, they all know that its a Game, and they need to make money, not answer stupid Historical questions that prove that their items are rubbish, they are quite happy in trying to convince people the craps good by pulling other reputations out of the bag ... thats all they have, 500 years of "selling-knowledge" between them, and ZERO years of actual research or History.. its a Money-making game to them, that they can ONLY,
ONLY. back up by calling one of their friends to say something positive about it, or pointing to a friend who "also sells them" ... but actual knowledge, actual facts?? when did you last see one of these so-called Experts, actually HELPING the community and providing some useful, researched information?? when? it has never happened, because it cant...spaghetti-heads the lot of them... they are Business men, and have nothing in common with collectors or researchers.